Here are the key points from the interview with Barry Trower, summarized as bullet points:
Barry Trower trained with the UK government's microwave warfare establishment in the 1960s, looking at all aspects of microwave warfare.
After leaving the military, he was asked to continue researching and spent 11 years collecting information from spies, international terrorists, and criminals.
The US used their own people as guinea pigs to develop microwave weapons in the 1950s, leading to increased cancers and ill effects.
Peaceful protesters in the UK were deliberately microwaved by an American base, causing tumors, personality changes, and suicidal tendencies.
Microwave weapons can be used to cause specific psychiatric illnesses by targeting glands, parts of the brain, eyes, or heart.
Governments have experimented on people, causing insanity in sane individuals, with successful outcomes meaning lifelong institutionalization for the subjects.
Discussions about microwave weapons and chips were openly discussed until the mid-1970s when governments classified the information.
Chips can be used for tracking or stimulating body processes and can make people hear voices through cochlear stimulation.
Bacteria and viruses can be genetically modified to lay dormant and later be activated by specific microwave frequencies to devastate a country's economy.
The increased use of microwave transmitters globally allows for potential misuse of these effects.
Police officers using the Tetra communications system have experienced increased cancer rates, aggressive behavior, and personality changes, as the system is still experimental.
US Special Forces experienced increased violence and domestic abuse after using certain communication frequencies, likely due to brain entrainment.
Children using cell phones experience disrupted brain waves and sleep patterns, with clusters of childhood leukemia appearing near transmitters.
Governments and industry have lied about the dangers of microwaves for 40 years to protect themselves from lawsuits.
The telecommunications industry and complicit governments may be responsible for more civilian deaths and suffering than all terrorist groups combined, amounting to genocide.
The World Health Organization is believed to be complicit in these decisions, with the same people involved across various agencies.
Nazi scientists were pardoned and given new identities in the US after WWII through Operation Paperclip, providing the basis for mind control and drug experiments.
Experiments were conducted on pregnant women, children, and unknowing subjects, causing miscarriages, suffering, and death.
The Nuremberg Treaty, established after WWII, prohibits experimentation on people without their informed consent, making current microwave experiments illegal.
Scientists who conducted similar experiments during WWII were sentenced to death by hanging at the Nuremberg Trials.
Hello, my name is Lars Drudgaard. I come from the International Center Against Abuse of Covert Technologies, and I'm very honored that I have been given a chance to interview Mr. Barry Trower, together with my fellow Danish citizen, Mr. Stephen Bell. My pleasure.
Maybe you could introduce yourself. Yeah, I'll tell you how I came into this. In the 1960s, very early 1960s, I trained with the government microwave warfare establishment. I looked at all aspects of microwave warfare, and when I finished my time in the military, because I had a lot of experience, I had a lot of expertise in the microwave field, I was asked if I would carry on with this research, and some people blow this out of all proportion. I was an agent. I don't like the word secret agent, because secret agent, when you say secret agent, people think of James Bond, who wasn't a secret agent. And he wasn't a spy. James Bond, the fictitious character, is military intelligence, and I wasn't military intelligence. I was an agent. I collected information secretly, and I spent 11 years collecting information from spies who were a very short part, a very small part of my work. I also questioned... international terrorists, international criminals, anybody of immense interest, I questioned. And I trained for quite a few years to learn how to do this.
They found that there was an unusual number of breast cancers, childhood leukemias, other cancers, and they couldn't work out why. So they changed some of the staff and then they went down with leukaemias and cancers. And again they changed the staff and then they looked into this and found they were being microwaved. And this is where the United States became a little bit naughty. They decided to keep this quiet. The Americans used their own people as initial guinea pigs to develop their own weapons. And then when it was discovered what was going on, initially there was a denial that you always get. Then there was a cover-up report. And finally, a very renowned professor, I think he has about 18 professorships, John Goldsmith, he wrote the definitive proper report and found that low-level microwaves were causing an enormous amount of cancers and leukaemias and ill effects. And by then every everybody was leaping onto the microwaves as stealth weapons and they go from there, which was the 50s, right up to and including the present day. ladies were protesting about having American missiles on English soil. And it was a peaceful protest. All they were doing were camping outside the perimeter of the American base. There was no violence, no swearing, no shouting. It was a peaceful protest. And it was found that from the American base the ladies were being microwaved. And it was actually measured. They were being microwaved to make them sick. And in fact when the figures came out there was a disproportionate amount of tumours, personality changes, suicidal tendencies of the ladies. They were deliberately microwaved by the Americans for protesting about their base. As you know with one pulse frequency you can just make people so suicidal they can't be bothered to act like a demonstrator anymore. All they want to do is sleep or lay in bed all day. So if you're targeting demonstrators you make them suicidally depressed. And they don't care about demonstrating anymore because they're too upset. Whereas if you want to cause a specific psychiatric illness you would have an infrared device that followed the person and you would link it to a pencil thinning device. So the microwave beam would always target a specific gland or a specific part of the brain or an eye or a heart. So you would have them being targeted.
They can cause insanity. And it was an experiment. One of the experiments was to take an ordinary sane person cause insanity and have a psychiatrist who was unknown to everybody diagnose schizophrenia or paranoia or a psychiatric illness. That was a successful outcome. And the person would spend the rest of their life in an asylum in misery but to the government scientists that was a success.
was the guinea pig locked up?
Oh yeah. I mean humans the difference between humans humans are like guinea pigs. If they want to experiment on you by the thousand they will. And you can be driven to insanity and death and you just become a tick in a box without any so much as a feeling. And this is what they do and this is why they are above the law.
It wasn't until around the 70s that this became secret. For some reason it was talked about openly. You know if I'm talking to a spy and I want to find out where the spy was trained how the spy was recruited over the five year period of training and everything that went on it's going to take years and years and years. But if you want to talk about microwaves and chips and microwave weapons they'll just talk about it over a biscuit and a cup of tea. It wasn't secret. Most governments talked openly or people talked openly about it. It wasn't until the 70s mid 70s that the I think the full potential of this globally
came into force and the governments decided then to put everything under the Official Secrets Act. But until then nothing was secret. It was just talked about openly.
Yeah.
I mean it just wasn't people didn't know about it. It wasn't general knowledge. You wouldn't meet somebody in the supermarket and say have you got a chip in? But people that had them knew they had them and they would go around talking about them and other people would talk about them.
Whereby with the Special Forces you could send down if you had an idea roughly what country they were in you could send down a beam from America from a satellite the chip would be switched on by the beam energised and would send a signal back. You've got that type of chip. The other type is when it is pulsing continuously to stimulate let's say a gland in the body at a set frequency to produce a specific chemical that will produce a specific body biochemical response in the brain. So you can have one working permanently and you can have them working intermittently and you can have them that will only work if they are stimulated. Yeah. I mean voices are the easiest ones because all you have to do is stimulate stimulate the cochlea with a set resonant frequency it's very easy. Voices are very easy. And it isn't people imagining voices they physically hear them. They physically hear as I'm talking to you voice isn't inside your brain. My voice goes no further than an inch into your ear. No further at all. It's the electrical signal that makes you interpret how I sound. And once you've got this electrical signal which can be a chip or lots of things you can physically make people hear voices certain voices and it can be any conversation and it can be anybody you want to hear it can be a soft angelic voice it can be a god it can be something that scares you like a devil it can be anything.
Fair enough. So I was there I went into the back of a big black car and it took me off in the dark and then underneath a huge building in the dark and I was suddenly thinking well hang on this could be a bullet in the back of the headtime I'm getting uncomfortable here but he took me out and took me to a room and he said I'm an international scientist he said and something is really really worrying me and I have to tell somebody who can tell the world. Now I actually knew what he told me I knew was going on anyway because it had been discussed in other countries but he said it is now possible to genetically change bacteriums and virus genetically change them. What has been developed now is if bacterium they can lay and yeasts they can lay in the soil for hundreds of years in a dormant stage and it's known by grave diggers or people who dig up old graves that it's possible when light comes on the bacterium to regenerate the bubonic plague that's been laying in the ground for several hundred years. It only wants that particular frequency and bang it's active again. You don't need more than two brain cells. to work out where you go from here. Viruses are neither dead nor alive. They inhabit hosts. If I put a virus inside a dormant bacteria that I know I can spring to life I go to Norway on a holiday or Denmark or Sweden I just spread the virus around the forests with the dormant bacteria and I come back. And I can wait if I like a hundred years, two hundred years or two hours. Makes no difference to me. And then all I have to do with half or a similar device is put the frequency the microwave frequency off the ionosphere down onto Norway whenever I feel like it virus will spring to life because their host has sprung to life. This is where we are. So countries can now just by introducing bacteriums and viruses and whatever they can totally devastate the economic possibilities of another country.
But doesn't that mean that we are in a new cold war and that the entire military is obsolete?
Oh, you're absolutely right. We are in a new cold war. And this is why countries are developing this. I mean really developing this. And this is why all of the microwave transmitters are going up everywhere. Because somebody, if they wanted to could use them for other effects. The system is up and running. a three month period I had five lady police officers in this house, all with cancer. I've had a series of calls from officers saying that their personalities have been changed. Whenever I go to a country and I did I think the year before I did six countries I think last year or the year before the questions always come around to Tetra. And they always come around to aggressive behaviour from the police since they started using Tetra. And I have the government documents that say this can cause neurological damage. This can cause cancer. This can cause aggressive behaviour and personality changes. This was at the beginning of the experiment and the experiment with Tetra is not due to finish until 2018. So it's an experimental system.
The United States one was quite interesting. It was to do with special forces probably five or six years ago. They came back from a mission and of the six or eight gentlemen that were in the special forces five of them I believe went home I think it was five or six went home and severely beat their wives or children or both where some of the wives died some ended up in hospital but they were severely beaten and it was believed that the communications apparatus they were using was in training the brain and stimulating violence. And this was Fort Bragg. Now I either had a phone call from Fort Bragg or I had a phone call from the embassy
to ask if I knew what frequencies could cause this because I ended up talking to each and I said don't tell me I will tell you what frequencies they have been using. Now the special forces don't just hold them up they're on permanently so we're talking massive entrainment far beyond what the ordinary person would suffer
of entrainment and violence. So I wrote I told them what frequencies I believed they would be using I sent them documentary evidence and the whole thing was hushed over and it was on the news but then they obviously I would imagine changed the frequency.
So I wrote A Child Using a Cell Phone just an ordinary school child if the child uses the phone for just two minutes the brain waves can take up to two hours to return to normal two hours and that's been published. Now in those two hours the child's brain is not acting as it should and it could demonstrate itself in a number of ways for instance if the child were in school and made a quick call from the playground it could be lack of concentration hyperactivity bad behaviour it could be anything like that and that would slowly ease off over two hours now that's just from two minutes
every couple of hours the brain is going to be entrained permanently and it's already been published by the industry that a child using microwaves just before bed will have his or her sleep totally disrupted by entrainment I cited I think 200 schools in Europe where the transmitter had been put in or near the playground where they had leukemia clusters some of our own MPs here have stood up in parliament to say that they have 11 children under the age of 11 with leukemia around a transmitter or 18 children I mean it's cancers are reaching epidemic proportions
of different types of cancers coming up now I would think I know in China they've just had a 3000% increase in parotid gland cancer which is the side of the face where you would hold a mobile we're getting cancers of the eye coming up obviously brain tumours in fact brain tumours are
quite enormous now in terms of numbers I read a report and I read this out in Canada last year people are so worried about the numbers of brain tumours that they've re-diagnosed 10,000 brain tumours as endocrine cancers to take them off the statistics and I do know that in the European Union we have been told that cancers are reaching epidemic proportions and we're talking generally cancers between the ear and the brain
years ago our government said to its scientists when it comes to microwaves you will only talk about things to do with heat and that is it so they won't even discuss anything else they will deny anything that doesn't have anything to do with heat they even deny all of their 40 years of research leading up to this although they've said this can cause cancer and all the damage they say no it can't we're only looking at heat and heat is all that matters I prefer to call it lying I think
I've never known so many liars in my life as what is coming out now from the government
I mean to put it simply they did all the research they knew the dangers and then they decided to lie to the public for no other reason than to save themselves with lawsuits to make money for industry and that's written down and I've got that written down so for the last
40 years the government the English government has been lying to the people and the American government the Canadian the Australian they have been lying to protect industry to protect themselves from lawsuits so they are really just liars and it's provable I made a statement in Birmingham in this country probably 15 years ago and I haven't changed it since and I've said that I believe that this industry and the part of the government which is encouraging them will be responsible for more civilian deaths and suffering than all the terrorist groups in the world ever and with the growth of the industry over the last 15 years I would say now that these people are probably going to cause more death and suffering
in the world war and is that genocide? Yes, without a shadow of a doubt and are they going to get away with it? Yes, because they are untouchable
they are outside the law Who is actually behind those decisions? Is this sanctioned by the WHO?
Sanctioned by the World Health Organisation without a shadow of a doubt it is the same people it's the same people who sit on the ICNAP certificate
governments health protection agency sit on the World Health Organisation it's the same people it's the same people there's probably no more than 20 of them but yes they are going to in my opinion commit the worst genocide this planet has ever known not just people but animals, plants they are probably going to cause more destruction
this is a global war and in several hundred years time people will look back whoever survives and look at what we try to do to stop them
Operation Paperclip at the end of the war
the scientists were pardoned most of them they were pardoned for all of the people they had killed they were given new identities mostly in the United States they were given new identities lived an ordinary civilian life very well paid and they went to work in laboratories for the American government and they handed over all of their research and this is where it came from and this was the basis of all of this Operation Paperclip
to catch somebody and keep their name secret that was Operation Paperclip and they took them back they took them back and they kept them they used all of their resources and there was a lot of scientists they used all of their resources and that was the basis of the mind control the drugs and everything else I do know one experiment, just to give you some examples I know that they found that with one of the subheadings was the microwaves on pregnant women and they found that they could cause a 57.7 increase in miscarriages in pregnant women which is just one experiment so what you're actually doing is you're killing 57% of all the children again mixing microwaves or electromagnetic waves with LSD on four year olds
they just experimented on people causing any amount of suffering to the point of death and if people ended up in or stone boxes for the rest of their lives that was the way it was going to be because they were allowed to be experimented on but as I say there is no boundary there is nothing which to me is too low I mean if you're going to attack a uterus in a child you can't get much lower and this is what they were all about at the end of the second world war a committee was formed by all of the western allies the United States and Russia and it was called the Nuremberg Treaty
and the Nuremberg Treaty was agreed by all the countries from the end of the second world war it was set up to stop people like Joseph Mengele the doctor of death in Bergen-Belsen concentration camp where he experimented on twins and they from the Japanese torturing the American and the British and the European soldiers the Germans experimented the Nuremberg Treaty was set up and it's very defined and very succinct and it says that no person may be experimented upon for any reason and this includes microwave radiation for any reason without their consent and before they give their consent they must have full knowledge of the length of the experiment the outcomes any potential dangers any potential ill healths it must be fully understood and explained and they must give individual consent and this includes Tetra which is an experiment that's going on until 2018 to look for cancer and brain damage so everybody using Tetra is actually breaking the law the people organizing them so that was set up so experiments on people service personnel the police officers with Tetra microwaves it is all illegal according to the Nuremberg Treaty
as far as I know the Nuremberg Code and the Nuremberg Treaty the Nuremberg trials and in the Nuremberg trials there was a specific trial called the doctors trials do you recall the sentencing of those trials
they were hanged and I've written it I've written it in my papers and I've said it on air in the radio in fact I said it I was on international radio it went out to 95 countries two Sundays ago and I said scientists at the end of the war were hanged for what scientists today are doing and getting away with absolutely
sentences used to death by hanging at such time and place as higher authority may direct